Day 1: Impeachment Trial of President Trump [LIVE VIDEO]

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Yes, it’s going to infuriate you, that’s a given. Mitch McConnell is currently lying through his teeth as I write this.

Today, the Senate will vote to start President Trump’s Senate impeachment trial with a resolution that sets up the rules of the trial, including how long it will last and how long everyone has to speak. Each side will get a set amount of hours to present its case for or against the president.

President Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives in December for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Impeachment does not mean that the president has been removed from office. In the next phase, the Senate must hold a trial to make that determination. A Senate impeachment trial has happened only two other times in American history and once in the modern era. At the center of the Democrats’ case is that Trump sought to withhold military assistance and an Oval Office meeting until Ukraine announced investigations into former vice president Joe Biden and his son. Read more: https://wapo.st/2sNXxkM. Subscribe to The Washington Post on YouTube: https://wapo.st/2QOdcqK

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 9:47:41am

McConnell says he will move to table - or kill - amendments that Dems may offer today to deal with “mid-trial questions” like witnesses or documents.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 9:48:38am

Lots of McConnell reference to him following the “Clinton precedent,” ie the same rules as in the 1999 trial. But there are differences, including they way that the question of witnesses will be considered and the limit of opening argument to two days per each side.

— Ted Johnson (@tedstew) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 9:49:34am

I wonder how many know that McConnell’s wife is a Trump cabinet member.

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:50:01am

Elizabeth Warren is the first candidate I’ve seen bring up this vitally important issue. Trump has poisoned everything he touched and defeating him would be just the beginning of an utterly necessary cleanup process. https://t.co/e5FRfXesIr

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:50:20am

If you’re calling Hillary “divisive” for expressing a well-founded opinion today, why aren’t you applying the same standard to a candidate whose followers and STAFF have earned a reputation for vicious toxicity?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 9:50:25am

MEANTIME, House has filed it’s rebuttal to the President’s defense brief.

First lines, “President Trump’s brief confirms that his misconduct is indefensible.” It, “entirely lacks a legitimate defense of his misconduct.”

READ it here: https://t.co/8CiRv9UYrV

— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:50:46am

And of course, this tweet instantly drew an ugly, toxic reply from BS supporter. Blocked. Next comes the harassment mob.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:51:09am

It’s always been extremely disheartening to see so many liberals affected by the right wing’s massive decades-long smear campaign against Hillary Clinton - whether they realize it or not.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:51:23am

No, Hillary should not stay out of this, and I’m not scared by her criticism of someone who seriously deserves it.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:51:54am

Always amazes me how so many people who don’t follow me seem ready to jump ugly INSTANTLY as soon as I tweet something critical of BS.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 9:52:46am

Chuck Schumer from the floor - “For POTUS to say Article II gives him the right to ‘do whatever he wants’ - we are staring down an erosion of the sacred Democratic principles for which our Founders fought a bloody war of independence. Such is the gravity of this moment.”

— Brandi Buchman (@BBuchman_CNS) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 9:54:44am

somebody needs to shove that “undoing the election” phrase back at these horrible people

goddamnedfrank Jan 21, 2020 • 9:54:53am

JUST IN: Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell plans to set aside any Democratic amendments to subpoena witnesses and documents at the outset of the Trump impeachment trial. Follow live updates here https://t.co/pbnlc1VB4Q pic.twitter.com/BzG5YaDQtk

— Reuters (@Reuters) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 9:55:03am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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The truth about Bernie Sanders is he’s a politician and plays cynical games. I’m tired of the white knight Sanders shit. It’s bs.

Chrysicat Jan 21, 2020 • 9:56:51am

Because of course the bad news can’t just stay in the Capitol.

I’m sure that his sexuality doesn’t factor into it at ALL either.

Glenn was an idiot to stay there after Bolsonaro was installed, because he should have known there was a camp bed with his name on it at that point. Of course, he also shouldn’t have stanned Putin.

— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 9:57:26am

There is no defense of Trump’s actions. McConnell and the Senate GOP know it but they’re afraid of him attacking them.

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 9:57:37am

Fuck Glenn Greenwald. That is all. I’m not going to voice any support for him, after he was charged with “cybercrimes” by Bolsonaro’s goons.

The charges are bullshit. But Glenn Greenwald is a despicable lying piece of shit who accused me of inspiring one of the worst mass murderers in history. He can go fuck himself forever.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 9:58:18am

re: #15 Chrysicat

Because of course the bad news can’t just stay in the Capitol.

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The enemy of my enemy isn’t my friend, learn some things next time Glenn.

Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 10:00:43am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

re: #7 Charles Johnson

re: #8 Charles Johnson

At least we know that no matter what happens, people are ready to put the blame for divisiveness where it really lies: Hillary Clinton and her supporters, the true reason why the Dem party is wholly unsalvagable and must be burnt down forever. ////

It really doesn’t seem to matter what she does, she and anyone who dares not immediately want to hang her in effigy are to blame for everything, even for relitigating 2016, something which Bernie has wholly built his 2020 campaign on.

And again, it seems to work every single fucking time, no matter fucking what, no matter how hard to try to butt back. The media, even those normally not so credulous such as Soledad O’Brian, Chris Hayes, etc., are ready to hang Hillary for this.

The ratfucking is going to win handily in 2020, isn’t it? It’s not even going to be close.

Eventual Carrion Jan 21, 2020 • 10:02:46am

I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 10:03:23am

re: #19 Citizen K

I think Hillary is correct on this. I think Sanders needs to address the people around him. And I think that OUR job is to stay focused on removing Trump.

Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos Jan 21, 2020 • 10:04:13am

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is no defense of Trump’s actions. McConnell and the Senate GOP know it but they’re afraid of him attacking them.

McConnell is almost as corrupt as Trump is (only because there isn’t any proof that he’s used his Senate position to personally enrich himself). He has no regard for rule of law.

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 10:04:59am

re: #22 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

McConnell is almost as corrupt as Trump is (only because there isn’t any proof that he’s used his Senate position to personally enrich himself). He has no regard for rule of law.

He’s mainly using his wife’s position to enrich himself.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:05:47am

re: #21 Belafon

I think Hillary is correct on this. I think Sanders needs to address the people around him. And I think that OUR job is to stay focused on removing Trump.

I have little faith in Sanders assembling a top notch team. I’ll vote for him over Trump but I’m not confident in him as an effective executive.

Colère Tueur de Lapin Jan 21, 2020 • 10:06:28am

Each side will get a set amount of hours to present its case for or against the president.

A set number of hours or a set amount of time; never a set amount of hours.

Do they teach English in journalism school anymore? Sheesh. Grrrrrrr.

Sherlock Hound Jan 21, 2020 • 10:06:58am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I’m just numb to him. He should have seen it coming, and he had the outright privilege to move ANYWHERE to continue his writing.

But he’d have to drop the asshole expat trope. He might even have to deal with the IRS.
I’m sorry for his life partner. Glenn already put him in danger once.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:07:09am

McConnell speech totally contradicts itself. It first claims the House “declined to hear from witnesses.” House of course never “declined”—they didn’t want to get bogged down in long court fight.

Then McConnell says witnesses shouldn’t be called in Senate. His reason? Omg …

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) January 21, 2020

McConnell argument thus boomerangs.

It demonstrates that he will do anything, and say anything, to try to prevent the American people from learning the truth.

It should be simple-If the President’s behavior was perfect&beautiful, why are they so afraid of documents+witnesses?

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:07:25am

re: #25 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A set number of hours or a set amount of time; never a set amount of hours.

Do they teach English in journalism school anymore? Sheesh. Grrrrrrr.

Sensationalism sells more these daya sadly. I saw that in college.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:08:02am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Schumer needs to call out this lying skunk fucker.

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 10:10:35am

This is a frightening sign of decay in our institution-a fedl judge’s order is ignored. The judge gives up. The founders gave us 3 branches of govt, a system of checks & balances. If the judicial & legislative branches no longer check the executive, the republic is lost. https://t.co/gkCEbDKegy

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:11:19am

Live shot of Mick Mulvaney and Mike Pompeo with the documents requested by Adam Schiff pic.twitter.com/8wyP9fnPhN

— Richard Hine (@richardhine) January 21, 2020

Dr. Matt Jan 21, 2020 • 10:11:23am

re: #21 Belafon

I think Hillary is correct on this. I think Sanders needs to address the people around him. And I think that OUR job is to stay focused on removing Trump.

Bernie is no friend of the Left. He’s only a Democrat when it serves him and needs votes from actual Democrats. Bernie and his Bros in many ways helped Pissboy Donnie win the EC. Bernie gave Donnie and the GOP talking points against HRC. Bernie could have got out and gave HRC a full-throat endorsement and campaigned his ass for HRC. But, he didn’t. Fuck him.

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 10:13:45am

So weird to hear these Washington Post reporters on the video talking about this as if it were all normal. Discussing whether Mitt Romney is going to vote with the GOP.

They live in some kind of rarefied atmosphere where reality doesn’t quite get through.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:13:50am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Bernie is no friend of the Left. He’s only a Democrat when it serves him and needs votes from actual Democrats. Bernie and his Bros in many ways helped Pissboy Donnie win the EC. Bernie gave Donnie and the GOP talking points against HRC. Bernie could have got out and gave HRC a full-throat endorsement and campaigned his ass for HRC. But, he didn’t. Fuck him.

He’s got a lot of Trump in him- a complete lack of understanding how the executive branch runs and in a lot of ways, it’s more frustrating since he’s been in Washington 30 years.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:14:47am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Fuck Glenn Greenwald. That is all. I’m not going to voice any support for him, after he was charged with “cybercrimes” by Bolsonaro’s goons.

The charges are bullshit. But Glenn Greenwald is a despicable lying piece of shit who accused me of inspiring one of the worst mass murderers in history. He can go fuck himself forever.

^^^ What Charles Said ^^^

Sherlock Hound Jan 21, 2020 • 10:15:50am

re: #30 Dread Pirate

It sucks, but Massachusetts has a long history of learned helplessness. We do not think government does anything right. And in turn, our government proves it, at all levels.

(As an appointed city official, I can attest to that. Remember, we have a GOP governor in a time where no one in his party can be considered “good”.)

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 10:16:56am

re: #30 Dread Pirate

JFC. This is getting bad.

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 10:17:04am

Until a person commits to better understanding and then better understands my father’s teachings and methodologies, I REALLY wish they’d keep his name, and incorrect anaylsis, out of their conversations about current issues. #MLKDay #MLK https://t.co/ZoVS89oYNQ

— Be A King (@BerniceKing) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:17:35am

Princess Nepotista showing up at a summit in Switzerland is just so on-brand. pic.twitter.com/ekFTWYo1Mg

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:19:18am

re: #38 Dread Pirate

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The right likes to use the fact that MLK’s niece is a wingnut to claim he would be one of them. Totally ignore that his actual immediate family have no love for the right at all. No, KAC, MLK would not be defending a man that even your right wing husband knows is a charlatan.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:19:45am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But Hunter Biden.//

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 10:20:18am

Chief Justice Roberts presiding over the end of our legal system.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:21:47am

JFC

NOW: from POTUS regarding the Democrats and impeachment: ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ pic.twitter.com/APVE5TYc8z

— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:22:43am

SCHIFF: If McConnell refuses to let witnesses and documents, it will not prove the President innocent - it will PROVE THE SENATE GUILTY OF OBSTRUCTION. pic.twitter.com/3m0vWohhDK

— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:22:43am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Totally a stable genius who should be acquitted. //

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:23:38am

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Totally a stable genius who should be acquitted. //

speaking of which:

Sold out in Mar-a-Lago! https://t.co/CxkSL6GjiH

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:23:52am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s the argument that needs to be made. That the truth isn’t being discovered because McConnell cares more about protecting Trump.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:24:21am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of which:

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I’m gonna read it after I’m done with my Marshall bio.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:25:22am

Schumer: “If the president believes his impeachment is so brazen and wrong, why won’t he show us why? If the president’s case is so weak that none of the president’s men can defend him under oath, shame on him …” pic.twitter.com/XWi6VXtmzv

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:26:17am

McConnell’s impeachment organizing resolution is now being read.
It will be followed by arguments in favor by the White House defense team for up to 1 hour.
Then the House managers will argue in opposition for up to 1 hour.
Then Schumer will offer his first amendment.

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:26:27am

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Exactly. Crying I’m innocent and perfect phone call isn’t a defense, it’s a lash out by a man who can’t handle any criticism.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:29:52am

McConnell is now in the process of making Trump Dictator For Life.

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 10:31:05am

Pat Cipollone, who’s involved in this mess up to his neck, is representing Donald Trump. A crook representing a crime boss. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/5dKoHMrv1t

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 10:33:38am

All of us, as jurors, must hold Trump’s lawyer, Cipollone, accountable for his opening statement promise that after hearing his presentation, “the only conclusion will be that the president has done nothing wrong.” Let your Senators know if you disagree-now or at the polls.

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 21, 2020

Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:34:03am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Fuck Glenn Greenwald. That is all. I’m not going to voice any support for him, after he was charged with “cybercrimes” by Bolsonaro’s goons.

The charges are bullshit. But Glenn Greenwald is a despicable lying piece of shit who accused me of inspiring one of the worst mass murderers in history. He can go fuck himself forever.

I will support the principle. But I will not support the man.

Glenn is a shrieking hypocrite. He doesn’t deserve execution or prison, but he does deserve to be de-platformed, denied attention, and forced to pursue a rewarding career in either the fastfoot-service or janitorial industries.

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 10:34:15am

McConnell: I hereby invoke Clinton procedures as “precedent” and not “radically different rule book” of voting now on having witnesses

Also McConnell: I hereby break from Clinton precedent with a radically different rule book for evidence and for time to present info to public

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) January 21, 2020

I highly recommend this scalpel-sharp takedown of the legal and factual absurdities in President Trump’s #ImpeachmentTrial Memo.

The author—@MichaelGerhard8—a foremost impeachment law scholar. (He literally wrote the book.)https://t.co/vfNMKcxbVS

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:34:38am

Schiff: “Cannot be indicted, cannot be impeached. It makes him a monarch.”

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 21, 2020

ericblair Jan 21, 2020 • 10:35:56am

re: #42 jaunte

Chief Justice Roberts presiding over the end of our legal system.

I think we need to remember this one. The goopers are pretty sure that they’re on the losing side of history and the public, and are counting on the Federal judiciary to be the dead hand of white supremacist rule for decades. If they’re also happy to let the executive walk all over the courts and do nothing, the next Democratic President might want to remember it when the judges try to drag this country back to the 1850s.

Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:36:19am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody needs to shove that “undoing the election” phrase back at these horrible people

Also there is no presumption of innocence
He is impeached
He willl be removed or not

Innocense doesn’t enter into it

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:36:37am

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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No one believes this, not even Trump. That’s why they’re hiding evidence and blocking witnesses. https://t.co/HnJoW1vr1L

— JackiSchechner (@JackiSchechner) January 21, 2020

Chrysicat Jan 21, 2020 • 10:37:32am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes, but it would be illegal to spell out what it is. And unfortunately, Rs are likely to have a lot more of what it is than we do.

That said, if there isn’t a #GeneralStrike as soon as the official acquittal occurs on Friday evening, we are willingly accepting our new King Don.

— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 21, 2020

Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:38:19am

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is no defense of Trump’s actions. McConnell and the Senate GOP know it but they’re afraid of him attacking them.

Worse
By their machinations they are defending him and abetting the cover up

They could just step aside and let the Dems have at him

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:38:34am

BREAKING - THIS: McConnell has changed his resolution to allow each side to present over *3* days, instead of *2*, per GOP source close to impeachment.

That is the difference b/t 12-hour days and 8-hour days. (9p end v 1a ET)

— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:40:15am

“Some things are more important than politics,” @ewarren says of being forced off the campaign trail for Trump’s impeachment trial pic.twitter.com/BYyH1TP5rv

— Matt Laslo (@MattLaslo) January 21, 2020

i(m)p(each)sos Jan 21, 2020 • 10:40:46am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have to wonder if there was pushback from Roberts.

He doesn’t want to be up until 3 every morning, either, especially when he’s still on the bench in the morning doing his day job.

Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:41:21am

re: #24 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I have little faith in Sanders assembling a top notch team. I’ll vote for him over Trump but I’m not confident in him as an effective executive.

He likely wouldnt get a majority Senate. Def not a 67
He will be a one term lame from day one
Because all his ideas are huge requiring mass agreement or constitutional changes
Oh and the economy will crash and he’ll get the blame

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 10:41:26am

re: #61 Chrysicat

You are not going to get your general strike. If strikes against the president or Congress bothered McConnell, Trump wouldn’t have lasted a month.

The marches that count are the ones toward the polls.

makeitstop Jan 21, 2020 • 10:42:50am

At the last minute, a change to this provision: House evidence now will be admitted automatically unless there’s an objection, rather than requiring a pro-active vote to admit it https://t.co/F0O1c6jg0o

— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) January 21, 2020

In a significant change that was just made to the McConnell resolution, there are now 3 days of opening arguments over 24 hours. The initial language had just two days. GOP aides confirm they made the change.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:43:08am

Schiff asks Senators to imagine Americans on jury duty being told by the judge that he has spoken to the defendant and has decided not to allow the prosecution to call any witnesses: “It’s a mockery of a trial.” #TrumpsRemovalTrial #MitchMcCoverup

— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) January 21, 2020

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:43:20am

re: #66 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

He likely wouldnt get a majority Senate. Def not a 67
He will be a one term lame from day one
Because all his ideas are huge requiring mass agreement or constitutional changes
Oh and the economy will crash and he’ll get the blame

What frustrates me is I can never get an answer why despite 30 years in Congress, Bernie has little to his name passed. You can complain about the makeup of Congress during that time but there have been otehr legislators with equally if not more progressive records who have gotten their bills made into law. I really think so many people including sadly some people I share a core philosophy with don’t really understand what the presidency actually is. And I’m sad to say but I think that’s what caused a lot of left wingers to think Obama betrayed them.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:43:23am

re: #67 Belafon

You are not going to get your general strike. If strikes against the president or Congress bothered McConnell, Trump wouldn’t have lasted a month.

The marches that count are the ones toward the polls.

This isn’t France.

Americans are too obsessed with Looking Out For #1 to engage in a general strike or massive street marching.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 21, 2020 • 10:43:33am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another change is that the evidence the House generated in its hearings will be automatically admitted rather than voted on.

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 10:44:12am

Adam Schiff now underlining the fact that Republican Senators will now be known oath breakers.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:45:10am

I am really afraid that the military has had enough of Trump and they may instigate a coup…

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:45:32am

Frankly, I don’t know what it’s going to take to get an anesthetized citizenry to realize what a threat the country is facing in having a criminal idiot as a chief executive, a guy who has put every part of the republic up for sale, and for cheap. https://t.co/3TU9QyeCwt

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 21, 2020

Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos Jan 21, 2020 • 10:45:36am

re: #52 Joe Bacon 🌹

McConnell is now in the process of making Trump Dictator For Life.

He sees himself as a kingmaker in much the same fashion that Hermann Göring did in the 1930s.

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 10:45:41am

This is a brilliant presentation by Schiff. This is the moment of the trial that will likely have the greatest viewership and he’s laying out the case for convicting Trump and making a strong case for having a more open and transparent process.

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) January 21, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:46:43am

re: #71 Joe Bacon 🌹

This isn’t France.

Americans are too obsessed with Looking Out For #1 to engage in a general strike or massive street marching.

also, if they can’t be bothered to vote, they certainly will not strike/march.

Sherlock Hound Jan 21, 2020 • 10:47:12am

re: #67 Belafon

You are not going to get your general strike. If strikes against the president or Congress bothered McConnell, Trump wouldn’t have lasted a month.

The marches that count are the ones toward the polls.

Not that right-to-work (right-to-be-shitcanned) helps.

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 10:49:46am

re: #79 Sherlock Hound

Not that right-to-work (right-to-be-shitcanned) helps.

There isn’t a single person around me paying attention to the impeachment.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 10:50:19am

Now is a good time to listen to scientists.

— Tgage (@tgagemurphy) January 21, 2020

DodgerFan1988 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:50:53am

I’m 19 and the likes of Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, & Dinesh Desouza felt the need to come at me & send their followers to attack me today.

Anyone in the @TheDemCoalition or part of the #Resistance movement want to help a fellow #resister out?

Let’s push back✊

— Ethan Somers (@ethanjsomers) January 21, 2020

Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 10:51:30am

re: #70 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

What frustrates me is I can never get an answer why despite 30 years in Congress, Bernie has little to his name passed. You can complain about the makeup of Congress during that time but there have been otehr legislators with equally if not more progressive records who have gotten their bills made into law. I really think so many people including sadly some people I share a core philosophy with don’t really understand what the presidency actually is. And I’m sad to say but I think that’s what caused a lot of left wingers to think Obama betrayed them.

One reason he’s been in for so long is no one else up there wants the job

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:51:50am

North Korea ain’t having none of that Captain Trips spreading in their house

North Korea has temporarily banned foreign tourists as a protection against the mysterious virus from China that has killed at least 6 people and sickened nearly 300, a leading tour operator reported on Tuesday https://t.co/Qd97Ni9hCv

— The New York Times (@nytimes) January 21, 2020

Sherlock Hound Jan 21, 2020 • 10:52:10am

re: #80 Belafon

The time we had just three networks and preemptive coverage was a VERY short time in our history. Never happened before or since.

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 10:54:58am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

An economic collapse. Serious.

As for the rest of it, even though Fox (some of the stations here are set to it) is carrying it, that channel keeps their viewers very misinformed. And even those around me who might otherwise be levelheaded tend to stay away from a lot of political news.

ericblair Jan 21, 2020 • 10:55:17am

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, if they can’t be bothered to vote, they certainly will not strike/march.

I think a lot of it is geography. Metro Paris is 12 million, out of a 66 million French population. A strike in Paris, Lyon, and Marseilles directly affects a quarter to a third of the population. Strikes in New York and Washington are going to affect a lot less than ten percent, plus they’re the ones who agree with you anyway. We had big Iraq War protests in Washington back in the day, and you wouldn’t even be told about them in DC (except for on the traffic report), much less in West Cowflop, Missouri.

Plus, I live in Western Europe and strikes and marches are just part of the culture. There are strikes, most people don’t even know what they’re about, and everyone shrugs and works around them their usual way.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 21, 2020 • 10:55:54am

And the new disease appears in the US…

A man in Washington state has been diagnosed with the mysterious virus, the first case confirmed in the United States since the illnesses first appeared in China last month and which has killed at least six people and sickened hundreds more in Asia, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The man is in stable condition. He arrived in the United States last week, before federal health officials began screening travelers from the central Chinese city of Wuhan at Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York’s John F. Kennedy international airports.

washingtonpost.com

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 10:57:54am

According to this story, Trump got his “four embassies” line not from intelligence obtained BEFORE the Soleimani strike, but from exaggerating information about how Iran could retaliate AFTER the US killed Soleimani. https://t.co/rDvbLqAFtr

— Kate Brannen (@K8brannen) January 21, 2020

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 10:59:04am

Some backstory: Collins and other senators pushed for the last-minute changes

“She and others raised concerns about the 24 hours of opening statements in 2 days and the admission of the house transcript is the record,” says spokeswoman Annie Clark.

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) January 21, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 10:59:52am

Adam Schiff just played a clip of Trump lying about wanting witnesses to testify. Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is laughing on the inside. The Republicans all knew he was lying about that. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/onDrN0CsHH

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

“The innocent do not act this way.” https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/YN7bjU76Lm

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:02:01am

9/ M. “I voted against witnesses and evidence and covered up Trump’s crimes of obstruction, lying, and abuse of power so he wouldn’t tweet mean things about me.” is a shit political obituary. So is, “I didn’t want a primary.”

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 21, 2020

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:02:32am

re: #90 Dread Pirate

McConnell needs Collins to look like a reasonable senator to help get her reelected. He pretty much had that planned in advance.

Dave In Austin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:02:35am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

So it’s loose in the population.

Chrysicat Jan 21, 2020 • 11:02:55am

Listening to Adam Schiff sit up there and give a speech about fairness, and a “fair trial” and complain about not allowing witnesses is absolutely bs after he denied President Trump all of those rights in his sham hearings. Libs are ridiculous

— sunnyhunnybun (@lyrical_fork) January 21, 2020

And of course, their idea of same was simply “scream at the top of their lungs that it’s despicable the entire Biden and Clinton families aren’t making their home in ADX Florence”, anyway.

— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 21, 2020

Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:04:52am

re: #95 Chrysicat

Impeachment is not a trial. The President can have witnesses now.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:08:13am

This superbly detailed cave lion head, was sculpted in woolly mammoth ivory, c. 35,000 years ago.
The head, once part of a larger figure, was found in the Vogelherd Cave located in Germany. Length 25 mm, height 18 mm, breadth 6 mm.
Photo courtesy: J.Cook https://t.co/ACIN8NBlXN pic.twitter.com/z71MCZpClQ

— Ticia Verveer (@ticiaverveer) January 21, 2020

jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:09:13am

The purposes that Schiff is advancing so well are 1.) to convince the PUBLIC Trump is a menace and 2.) to convince the PUBLIC the Senate is helping his corruption scheme. R’s are helping him by refusing to take witnesses and docs. They help make Schiff’s case to the public.

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 21, 2020

Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:09:26am

Dow has been dropping since the Impeachment speeches began, down 182 now.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 11:09:41am

This impeachement trial is going to end up with Dems and the GOP screaming at each other back and forth, isn’t it?

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:10:49am

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

This impeachement trial is going to end up with Dems and the GOP screaming at each other back and forth, isn’t it?

We could give the Democrats canes.

This is coming down to the 2020 election.

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Dr Lizardo Jan 21, 2020 • 11:10:58am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

So it’s loose in the population.

We were talking about that during this evening’s English lesson; the consensus of my students is that China is most likely downplaying or minimizing the actual number of infected (about 200 to 300 or so officially) and that if you multiply that by a factor of four, you’ll probably get a more accurate count.

Mind you, Czechs are deeply cynical, but as they pointed out, “Hey….we’ve had lots of experience with Communist regimes and their statistical manipulations.” Which, to be fair, is difficult to argue against.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:10:58am

Rep. Schiff w/ the reminder that the US Court of Appeals is still weighing a big impeachment-related case on whether House Democrats can ? former WH Counsel Don McGahn. That decision could come any time now. Arguments were Jan 3 on an expedited schedule. https://t.co/xAHVVj7bhD

— Darren Samuelsohn (@dsamuelsohn) January 21, 2020

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Barefoot Grin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:11:06am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

So it’s loose in the population.

Not an ideal time to have a fabulist in the Oval Office.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:11:42am

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

The Dems can just play tapes of Republicans making the opposite arguments during the Clinton impeachment.

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:12:05am

Adam Schiff is making an excellent case—to the public. That’s who this is intended for. He knows the cult-like GOP is going to do what they do. They’ve already tuned him out. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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Dave In Austin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:12:24am

Y’all have only one 1 question to ask yourselves.

Who will you vote for in November?

DO NOT TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL!!!!

— And the Wind Cries “They’re All Oathbreakers” (@DaveoutofAustin) January 21, 2020

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delilah Jan 21, 2020 • 11:12:59am

Adam Schiff is doing really well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:13:20am

READ THE TRANSCRIPTS!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 21, 2020

PRODUCE THE TRANSCRIPTS, YOU MORON!!11!!!

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:14:13am

More graphics: pic.twitter.com/b9Bt1tNmKJ

— Olivia Beavers (@Olivia_Beavers) January 21, 2020

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makeitstop Jan 21, 2020 • 11:15:28am

One point:

Senator McConnell said he had the votes to pass the resolution distributed last night.

Clearly, he didn’t — or he wouldn’t have had to make last-minute changes to it today.

Just worth keeping in mind in terms of his future assertions about what votes he says he has.

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) January 21, 2020

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:16:50am

re: #111 makeitstop

Even if this is true, he did it this way to make a show of how Collins is being a moderate and how he has been flexible so why are Democrats asking for more.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:16:58am

Elmo educates

On ou tube https://t.co/OVHfVbuxfU

— Keith Spy Kerr (@kdvncm) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:20:09am

And now, the bullshit starts in earnest. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/3Gt4OnAX6K

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:20:34am

READ THE CONSTITUTION! https://t.co/NXwm72tRns

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:21:30am

Sekulow breathing heavy and yelling like Meadows.

— Free bird (@TearsInHeaven09) January 21, 2020

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Dave In Austin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:22:35am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re going to get an hour of “What about” now.

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:22:54am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hear this in the voice of the tenth Doctor when he said “I don’t know” to the Sycorax leader.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:23:26am

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:23:30am

Keep in mind, this is only intended for one person to hear. Sekulow isn’t trying to convince anyone - this is just a performance.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 11:23:33am

re: #111 makeitstop

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It should be noted that Mitch insisted 2 weeks ago that he had the votes to ram through rules and vote upon immediate dismissal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:23:39am

Tough break for these countries to be drawn out of Stephen Miller’s hat like this https://t.co/c835z0CI6i

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:24:27am

Sekulow has lost whatever credibility he had by saying Mueller cleared the President of obstruction of Justice. An absurd and inaccurate statement.

— Joe Lockhart (@joelockhart) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:24:56am

“Why are we here? Are we here because of a phone call?” Jesus, this is pathetic. https://t.co/LL6BWOWcZj pic.twitter.com/PI8GHuNzWs

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:25:00am

here to remind you that jay sekulow is a grifter of the highest order pic.twitter.com/Jx32NrNSK2

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 21, 2020

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Barefoot Grin Jan 21, 2020 • 11:25:03am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He can’t. It’s in a foreign language.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:25:55am

Trump’s Impeachment Trial began in the Senate today. He’s guilty. We all know it. But it probably doesn’t matter.

New essay up on Stonekettle
Station: https://t.co/YJLtlG6FfJ

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:27:02am

Oh look, it’s Jay Sekulow with his fellow Trump legal-team member Lev Parnas celebrating Bill Barr’s letter lying about the Mueller investigationhttps://t.co/7PX46hv5X9

— Jeremy Venook (@JVenook) January 21, 2020

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jan 21, 2020 • 11:27:17am

The President and 51 members of the Senate https://t.co/lMSwMyauzd

— Hayes Brown (@HayesBrown) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:28:31am

Cipollone manufactures due process violations. He argues that Trump was entitled to cross-examine witnesses during investigation. That is not true in a criminal case. Right to cross-examine comes at trial. Cynical sleight of hand designed to confuse.

— Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) January 21, 2020

Cipollone focuses on “a phone call” to avoid talking about the months-long conspiracy to extort election interference and coverup.

— Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:29:21am

I think she means Sekulow.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:30:15am

my feed could be behind

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:30:25am

Please recall, Jay Sekulow told the American people Donald Trump had nothing to do with drafting the summary of what happened in the Trump Tower meeting between Trump campaign members and the Russians. That was entirely and utterly untrue.

— Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) January 21, 2020

#JaySekulow showcasing #Republican defense: attack Obama, Schiff, and Democrats, not defend against accusation of abuse of office.

— Naveed Jamali (@NaveedAJamali) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:31:50am

Sekulow has not two sentences without lying. This is a record, even for the Senate.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:32:36am

The strategy of Trump’s legal team is clear: spew a whole bunch of dishonest bullshit. Rinse, repeat. What a grotesque charade. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/B6lVY2S54A

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:33:02am

Cipollone, standing on the floor of the Senate during the impeachment trial, representing the President of the United States, says… the president has had no access to due process.

So I guess he’s not there.

— David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™ (@KagroX) January 21, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 11:33:20am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course they’ll try and make it about Obama because why the fuck not?

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:33:53am

Cippilone just said Republican members “weren’t allowed” into the secure basement. That is false, like a lot else he and Sekulow are saying.

— Jonathan Alter (@jonathanalter) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:34:28am

Trump’s mouthpieces aren’t even trying to make a case. They’re just parroting Trump’s lies. https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/N3csN51Znw

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:34:29am

A material witness, Jay Sekulow, who likely has a personal interest in containing any further investigation to these matters, is now representing Trump on the floor of the Senate. https://t.co/HTMANfpjP3

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 11:36:33am

I don’t know how you can have a coherent trial when the people involved aren’t speaking the same language. https://t.co/EHORR4Q6Qh

— Sasha Samberg-Champion (@ssamcham) January 21, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 11:36:52am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Frankly, I don’t know what it’s going to take to get an anesthetized citizenry to realize what a threat the country is facing in having a criminal idiot as a chief executive, a guy who has put every part of the republic up for sale, and for cheap. esquire.com …

Unfortunately, a big part of this is that our systems have been shown to be highly resistant to public outrage, especially when the politicians these demonstrations are meant to appeal to are shown to be without shame. Public outrage really doesn’t work on those who have no shame. And our media has been all too willing to launder GOP talking points and minimize any and all demonstrations against the GOP to the point of pointlessness.

We have an entirely broken system poisoned by bad faith to where the only recourse is the ballot, and when that can be broken and gamed, we have nothing.

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KGxvi Jan 21, 2020 • 11:37:01am

re: #129 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

More accurately: the president and 34 Senators.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:38:14am

Cippolone invokes John Bolton’s name.

Puhleeeeze. What an asshat. Cippollone says issuing a lawful subpoena is a “threat.”

53/

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:38:45am

It’s not over till it’s over but…. https://t.co/S6Nq7JZZEv

— Vipin Narang (@NarangVipin) January 21, 2020

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 11:39:03am

re: #141 jaunte

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he’s only talking to the R’s in the room and so…..they are indoctrinated and understand quite well. wouldnt be surprised if they didnt all get advanced copy

I don’t know how you can have a coherent trial when the people involved aren’t speaking the same language. https://t.co/EHORR4Q6Qh

— Sasha Samberg-Champion (@ssamcham) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:39:09am

heh

Cipollone’s argument is so bad and full of lies, it’s like it was written by Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/29i8KvA7BA

— PoliticusUSA (@politicususa) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:40:12am

“They threatened him. They issued a subpoena,” Cipollone says.
Every administration official who testified did so under subpoena because White House & State Dept directed employees not to testify

— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) January 21, 2020

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KGxvi Jan 21, 2020 • 11:40:19am

Interesting sidenote on the “revised” “rules” that CNN has up:

the documents “shall” be admitted as evidence “subject to any hearsay or evidentiary objections the president may make”. That’s an interesting phrase because it suggests a legal standard in line with the Federal Rules of Evidence; which makes me wonder if Roberts will assert himself on those evidence questions or leave it to the Senate and its plethora of non-practicing attorneys and law school drop outs to determine…

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CarolJ Jan 21, 2020 • 11:40:31am

re: #71 Joe Bacon 🌹

Harder to organize than France. We are a larger and more diverse nation with multiple media outlets. There is no longer one place to use and organize one. Also France has workers rights that are enshrined in law, which mean you can’t be fired for exercising your civil rights by taking off from work. This is the Walmart economy, where you can be fired for missing a day for being sick, let alone participating in a general strike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:41:00am

Cippolone is going full InfoWars on the floor of the Senate.

There’s no other way to describe it.

— Elizabeth C. McLaughlin (@ECMcLaughlin) January 21, 2020

White House lead lawyer Pat Cipollone summing up the White House’s argument on Senate floor: “They have no case. Frankly, they have no charge.”

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:42:15am

The @WhiteHouse counsel’s claims of “transparency” during the argument must be contextualized with Trump’s record of secrecy & lies, from tax returns to visitor logs to FOIA to obstructing @TheJusticeDept & Congress. https://t.co/croWOLDFZJ

— Alex Howard (@digiphile) January 21, 2020

The Trump administration is the one saying the courts have no role! In the McGahn litigation DOJ says the court can’t enforce congressional subpoenas. This is pure gaslighting by Trump’s lawyer. https://t.co/YEWlbl3qHL

— Eric Columbus (@EricColumbus) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:42:53am

@rtenews @WilliamsJon @drivetimerte @Mary___Wilson Svante was also on the “committee for racial hygiene” . https://t.co/zfITX0kk1W

— Helen o’D (@boggywood) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:45:41am

“Not even Mr. Schiff’s Republican colleagues were allowed into the SCIF.” Again, this is just a clear lie and everybody saw numerous Republican members being in the depositions and asking questions. Their channelling Trump. Just openly lying.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:46:19am

Sekulow just flat-out lied, saying the Mueller report talked about the “insurance policy” text between Strzok and Page.
There’s only one mention of “insurance” in the report—and it referred to Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort’s work for Oleg Deripaska. https://t.co/AUeVuZgfSR pic.twitter.com/PJQYNTFG89

— The Moscow Project (@moscow_project) January 21, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 11:46:33am

btw, this is what’s so dangerous abt when press tries to Both Sides coverage in the age of Trump — Dems and GOP don’t operate in the same plane. at all.

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:47:55am

“Not even Mr. Schiff’s Republican colleagues were allowed into the SCIF” — this is a blatant lie from Cipollone pic.twitter.com/A4cWhwRSUo

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 21, 2020

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KGxvi Jan 21, 2020 • 11:48:16am

re: #152 Dread Pirate

There could be a legitimate separation of powers argument for prohibiting the courts from enforcing congressional subpoenas. But it would require Congress to exercise its inherent contempt powers and be willing/able to send the capitol police out to arrest people who refused to abide by congressional subpoenas. That would then open the door to potential litigation related to habeas corpus issues and due process rights. Which, invariably, would require judicial review.

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 11:51:06am

So the WH is basically going with the “Baffle them with bullshit” approach, an hour-long filibuster intended to go past muddying the waters and straight into shitting into them.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 11:51:22am

Does Schiff get to rebut these comments or does Cipplone have last word?

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rhuarc Jan 21, 2020 • 11:52:42am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Democrats need to stop with decorum. This is our country we’re talking about. Not some fucking game. Fucking shout out the blatant lies. Let McConnell get the Sergeant at Arms to physically remove them if McConnell doesn’t like it. Let the media cover THAT story if it happens. JFC!

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:53:57am

Trump legal team (to Senate): We have courts to resolve disputes between Congress and the President.

Trump legal team (to courts): It’s not your job to resolve disputes between Congress and the President.

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 11:54:47am

re: #162 Dread Pirate

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Trump legal team: Trump can do whatever he wants.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 11:56:12am

Not even 2 hours and they’re taking a break? Fucking lazy bastards. Not going to get 8 hours of arguments a day if 1/3 of it is breaks.

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 11:56:37am

Yup, @ggreenwald has mine as well. https://t.co/xkQDo582I4

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 21, 2020

He doesn’t have mine.

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:57:08am

re: #161 rhuarc

Democrats need to stop with decorum. This is our country we’re talking about. Not some fucking game. Fucking shout out the blatant lies. Let McConnell get the Sergeant at Arms to physically remove them if McConnell doesn’t like it. Let the media cover THAT story if it happens. JFC!

“In impeachment news today, Democrats refused to follow Senate procedures for the trial, weakening their case for removing Trump from office.”

Unless a quarter of the GOP drops dead and the rest of them think it’s an act of God, Trump will not be removed. Do not put more on this than it’s really worth. He’s been impeached. It’s our job to remove him from office in November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:57:34am

Schiff presented facts.

Trump’s lawyer ranted like a deranged Facebook commenter. #ImpeachmentTrial

— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:58:26am

Mitch McConnell knows the facts are damning for Donald Trump. To protect him, he’s pushing through a sham trial with no witnesses and no White House documents. He’s orchestrating a cover up, and trampling over the Constitution as he does it.

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) January 21, 2020

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 21, 2020 • 11:58:36am

re: #166 Belafon

“In impeachment news today, Democrats refused to follow Senate procedures for the trial, weakening their case for removing Trump from office.”

Unless a quarter of the GOP drops dead and the rest of them think it’s an act of God, Trump will not be removed. Do not put more on this than it’s really worth. He’s been impeached. It’s our job to remove him from office in November.

and that needs to be the Democrats’ rallying cry to voters: “Get out and finish the job that the Senate refused to do!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 21, 2020 • 11:58:59am

What a cheap bastard! Small-time Iranian hood tries to put out a hit on a New York/DC crime boss.

An Iranian MP is offering $3m to ‘anyone who kills’ US President Trump to avenge Soleimani’s assassination https://t.co/JSttFcIkOt pic.twitter.com/2lR4zG0M8P

— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) January 21, 2020

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 11:59:40am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that needs to be the Democrats’ rallying cry to voters: “Get out and finish the job that the Senate refused to do!”

Yep, and “The GOP is complicit, they need to be removed from power as well.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 11:59:52am

Fascinating that Senators are not allowed to talk to each other or look at their phones. They will not be able to take the popular temperature, won’t know what Hannity thinks or what Kellyanne opines until they leave the chamber. What impact will that have? #ImpeachmentTrial pic.twitter.com/fpkQoMxc17

— Frida Ghitis (@FridaGhitis) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:01:45pm

It’s frustrating to see a licensed member of the bar stand on the Senate floor and say that Republicans were kept out of the SCIF, which is verifiably false. It’s not a matter of opinion or exaggeration. It is false. Yet the top attorney advising the president said it.

— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) January 21, 2020

Will the Bar do anything about it, though.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:02:44pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

I understand that at least eight of them are wearing Apple watches.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:02:53pm

Ain’t nothing but gaslighting bs.

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Jay C Jan 21, 2020 • 12:02:56pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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He doesn’t have mine.

Hopefully not pushing a sensitive button, Charles, but what’s the source of your animus towards GG? (I know, it’s Greenwald, hence probably a host of reasons): but you mentioned, earlier, him “accusing you of excusing mass murder” or something? Was this something left over from the “old” LGF??

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 12:03:00pm

Sen. Schumer’s first amendment will subpoena “all documents, communications, and other records within the possession, custody, or control of the White House” related to Ukraine. The @SenateGOP must stop helping the President obstruct justice & bring those documents to the Senate.

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:03:50pm

Why would lying, oath-breaking Senators bother to obey Senate rules about devices?

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 12:04:49pm

re: #178 jaunte

Why would lying, oath-breaking Senators bother to obey Senate rules about devices?

Subject to fines, iirc.

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Sherlock Hound Jan 21, 2020 • 12:04:56pm

re: #176 Jay C

I think it had to do with Greenwald asserting an association between our Charles and Anders Brevik.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 12:05:02pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t care if that amendment goes down in flames, let’s get these GOP assholes on the record for EVERYTHING.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:05:14pm

re: #179 Dread Pirate

Citizens United renders them immune to fines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 12:06:34pm

During more than 33 years in public service, I never heard a government lawyer so misrepresent the facts & deceive the American public as WH Counsel Pat Cipollone just did in the Senate impeachment trial. Further evidence of the contagion of Mr. Trump’s dishonesty & corruption. https://t.co/Mk10KoE7sC

— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) January 21, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 12:09:51pm

re: #180 Sherlock Hound

I think it had to do with Greenwald asserting an association between our Charles and Anders Brevik.

Yep. Glenn and a host of others attempted to claim that LGF and ThinkProgress were among the sites glowingly referenced in Brevik’s manifesto. It was photoshopped bullshit obviously, but it was a bald-faced attempt to draw fire away from the folks Brevik actually cited such as Pamela Gellar.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:11:59pm

re: #184 Citizen K

Yep. Glenn and a host of others attempted to claim that LGF and ThinkProgress were among the sites glowingly referenced in Brevik’s manifesto. It was photoshopped bullshit obviously, but it was a bald-faced attempt to draw fire away from the folks Brevik actually cited such as Pamela Gellar.

In fact, Brevik actually I think went after Charles by name. Here’s what infuriates me about Greenwald. It’s that he goes after people for stances he once held. Support for Iraq and surveillance for starters. And him admitting to being wrong is like Trump admitting he’s wrong, it doesn’t happen. He’s a self righteous windbag who has poisoned a lot of dialogue with his bullshit.

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Mike Lamb Jan 21, 2020 • 12:22:49pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My issue with Brennan’s tweet is the implication that Trump corrupted Cippolone. Trump might have given the dude a nudge, but you can’t make an ethical person do the things that Cippolone (and Sekulow and many others) take such unethical steps. They were predisposed to it. Much like voters who said that calling Trump and his supporters racist caused them to vote for Trump—they were already heading in that direction.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 12:23:07pm

Schiff smacking back at some of the lies.

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 12:24:44pm

re: #186 Mike Lamb

My issue with Brennan’s tweet is the implication that Trump corrupted Cippolone. Trump might have given the dude a nudge, but you can’t make an ethical person do the things that Cippolone (and Sekulow and many others) take such unethical steps. They were predisposed to it. Much like voters who said that calling Trump and his supporters racist caused them to vote for Trump—they were already heading in that direction.

Part of the contageon is the idea that it’s ok to do the stuff that you might not have done otherwise.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:25:19pm

re: #187 Dread Pirate

In the age of Trump it’s almost a surprise listening to an intelligent man in command of his subject stand up without notes and speak extemporaneously, strategically, and persuasively.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 12:27:36pm

re: #186 Mike Lamb

My issue with Brennan’s tweet is the implication that Trump corrupted Cippolone. Trump might have given the dude a nudge, but you can’t make an ethical person do the things that Cippolone (and Sekulow and many others) take such unethical steps. They were predisposed to it. Much like voters who said that calling Trump and his supporters racist caused them to vote for Trump—they were already heading in that direction.

What needs to be clearly realized is that Trump is just as dishonest as any other Republican. The only difference is that Trump lies about absolutely everything, not just the GOP approved list of party-line lies, and he’s worse at lying than most Republicans.

In other words, Trump (as awful as he is) is not the problem. The problem is Republicans.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 12:31:05pm

re: #190 EPR-radar

What needs to be clearly realized is that Trump is just as dishonest as any other Republican. The only difference is that Trump lies about absolutely everything, not just the GOP approved list of party-line lies, and he’s worse at lying than most Republicans.

In other words, Trump (as awful as he is) is not the problem. The problem is Republicans.

Both of them are the problem.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:33:15pm

Lofgren: “Documents don’t lie.”

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 12:33:34pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

Both of them are the problem.

Not really. Trump without the Republicans is a malignant black hole that will blight anyone he comes into contact with, which is mostly his family and anyone stupid enough to do business with him.

The Republicans without Trump remain a fascist party waiting for their Hitler.

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Mike Lamb Jan 21, 2020 • 12:33:47pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

Both of them are the problem.

Yes…Trump is the natural culmination of the GOP’s nihilism. But they’ve now created a feedback loop btween themselves that increases the problem exponentially.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:35:29pm

Rep. Lofgren emphasizes that the impeachment managers do not know what the subpoenaed documents will say: “We simply want to know the truth.”

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 12:36:56pm

Absent any factual argument, Sekulow and Cipollone employ the Boone Delta House “We are not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!” defense. @JaySekulow #ImpeachmentDay #AnimalHouse #ImpeachTrump pic.twitter.com/CHZm7yOAAe

— Gabor Antalics (@GAntalics) January 21, 2020

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Belafon Jan 21, 2020 • 12:36:59pm

re: #192 jaunte

Lofgren: “Documents don’t lie.”

Unless they’re doctored.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 12:37:37pm

re: #194 Mike Lamb

Yes…Trump is the natural culmination of the GOP’s nihilism. But they’ve now created a feedback loop btween themselves that increases the problem exponentially.

Trump : Republicans :: Hitler : Nazis

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:38:38pm

re: #197 Belafon

Apparently there are too many to doctor.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:38:54pm

re: #196 Dread Pirate

Yeah Schiff totally shouldn’t take the word of Putin over the IC. Oh wait that was Jay and Pat’s boss.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:39:08pm

Yahoo News reporter Jon Ward says Republicans appeared “uncomfortable” as House impeachment manager Adam Schiff made the case for President Trump’s removal from office.
Said Ward: “I sat in chamber for entire Schiff speech. That was a mauling. Trump team thought they were there to debate process and Schiff ambushed them with a full-throated case for impeachment. Republicans were visibly uncomfortable. Sekulow and Cippolone responses were rambling and bombastic.”

we all know the dynamics, the metrics and the math of majority

still, they’re not fooling anyone with two or more brain cells

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:40:24pm

re: #201 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

we all know the dynamics, the metrics and the math of majority

still, they’re not fooling anyone with two or more brain cells

Jay and Pat are amateurs. Schiff has been here before.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:41:04pm

Insisting on acting like Trump did nothing wrong is going to bite them in teh ass in the end.

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Thanos Jan 21, 2020 • 12:41:59pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

And screw his socky socky persons too.

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Ming5000 Jan 21, 2020 • 12:42:54pm

CNN 6 people dead, 300 infected as China confirms Wuhan virus can be spread by humans
2% fatality rate —— that is pretty scary

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 12:46:06pm

Can he be disbarred? https://t.co/BhbCHlUr0p

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 12:47:12pm

I hope a few Fox watchers are seeing this without commentary for the first time.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 12:47:56pm

re: #206 Dread Pirate

That’s a funny question. If Republican lawyers could be disbarred for blatant lying, there wouldn’t be any left with a license to practice law.

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 12:51:56pm

re: #201 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

we all know the dynamics, the metrics and the math of majority

still, they’re not fooling anyone with two or more brain cells

That’s what happens when you bring a knife to a gunfight.

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Mike Lamb Jan 21, 2020 • 12:52:16pm

re: #206 Dread Pirate

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But Matt Gaetz and the Charge of the Derp Brigade were kicked out of the SCIF!!!!

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:52:58pm

“The Democrats came prepared, the Trump team just showed up because the teacher already promised them an A+ on the test.”

they didnt even bring the sparknotes version

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 12:53:43pm

re: #184 Citizen K

Yep. Glenn and a host of others attempted to claim that LGF and ThinkProgress were among the sites glowingly referenced in Brevik’s manifesto. It was photoshopped bullshit obviously, but it was a bald-faced attempt to draw fire away from the folks Brevik actually cited such as Pamela Gellar.

The full story is here: littlegreenfootballs.com

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 12:55:29pm

im not watching live

i just read this:

“Schiff basically said, tell us that any president can do what trump did….just say it and we can all go home”

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 12:56:03pm

Donald Trump & his Defense Team, as portrayed by Eli Valley:
In spoiler tags because some things can’t be unseen:

Click to Reveal

A portrait of the Trump Defense Team, starring Ken Starr, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz: pic.twitter.com/5iGYzWsq30

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:02:47pm

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

Donald Trump & his Defense Team, as portrayed by Eli Valley:
In spoiler tags because some things can’t be unseen:

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their version of penis gourds, apparently

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 1:07:59pm

re: #211 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

“The Democrats came prepared, the Trump team just showed up because the teacher already promised them an A+ on the test.”

they didnt even bring the sparknotes version

The Dems are showing the sort of performance you give when you know the game is rigged but you want to make the taste of “victory” so bitter that the other side walks away knowing they’ll never be able to enjoy it. Debating procedure and arguing whether what the Repubs are proposing is “fair” or not is playing on their terms.

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makeitstop Jan 21, 2020 • 1:11:03pm

Listening to @JaySekulow defend POTUS is like listening to someone say Hannibal Lecter is innocent because he ate the evidence.

— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:11:12pm

So far in this #ImpeachmentTrial, House Managers Schiff and Zoe Lofgren are the students who spent weeks doing their term papers.

Trump attorneys Cipollone and Sekulow are the students who got drunk last night while listening to right-wing radio hosts spout conspiracy theories.

— Pithy Quips (@PithyQuips) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:12:18pm

.@RepAdamSchiff: “When the founders wrote the impeachment clause, they had precisely this type of misconduct in mind: Conduct that abuses the power of his office for personal benefit, that undermines our national security, that invites foreign interference in our [elections].” pic.twitter.com/KMnPndDDSq

— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) January 21, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 1:13:07pm

re: #205 Ming5000

CNN 6 people dead, 300 infected as China confirms Wuhan virus can be spread by humans
2% fatality rate —— that is pretty scary

It is, but I am thinking (and of course NOT trying to be overly optimistic here) that the virus is probably more serious for those who have weakened immune systems.

Also 300 is a pretty small number. I’d be curious to know how the numbers would look on a larger scale though I would be more than happy to get to a point where a “larger scale” is not a concern.

For comparison, the fatality rate for SARS was around 15%, but it was also substantially higher among people over 64 years of age.

Interestingly enough, I picked up an old TIME magazine from when the big SARS outbreak in 2003 at a thrift store just last week. As it happens, there were just over 8000 total infections before we finally got that one under control.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:13:24pm

You “both parties are the same” people (stares at Jill Stein) need to look at the difference between Schiff and Lofgren versus Sekulow and Cipollone, check yourselves, and get back to me.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 1:17:23pm

What the fuck is this dude babbling about? I took a break to have lunch, and come back in to find this happy horseshit.

Patrick Philbin currently making the argument that Trump and the GOP refusing to allow witnesses makes the Democrats “afraid.” https://t.co/LL6BWPdOnT pic.twitter.com/ExPuFESpWG

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 1:17:54pm

JURORS: “I’m going to talk to the defendant, and the other jurors before the trial begins, and declare that the defendant is innocent.”

BRAYING BOOZEHOUND: “That’s how justice is done!”

PROSECUTOR: “The defendant is guilty.”

BRAYING BOOZEHOUND: “This is OUT-RAGE-OUS!!!!” https://t.co/5lSFQ5cdGh

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:17:59pm

The first person to be counted in the 2020 Census is a Toksook Bay elder who only speaks Yup’ik and “has concerns about climate change and what it might do to future generations of subsistence hunters and fishers in the community”. https://t.co/xEuJrLnNDI

— Brian Brettschneider (@Climatologist49) January 21, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 1:18:06pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

WTAF? Afraid of WHAT?

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rhuarc Jan 21, 2020 • 1:18:27pm

re: #166 Belafon

“In impeachment news today, Democrats refused to follow Senate procedures for the trial, weakening their case for removing Trump from office.”

Unless a quarter of the GOP drops dead and the rest of them think it’s an act of God, Trump will not be removed. Do not put more on this than it’s really worth. He’s been impeached. It’s our job to remove him from office in November.

I know he won’t be removed. The result is already known. Republicans are treating this as a show trial. Democrats aren’t. In the end, the Democrats are going to lose the style battle because of this. So they need to put on a show while getting the real message out. The American public is too goddamn stupid to trust with nuance and the expectation that they will see through the bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 21, 2020 • 1:18:45pm

re: #217 makeitstop

“You say Dr. Lecter killed the deceased and removed his liver? Where is that liver? Can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the deceased even HAD a liver? And where are the alleged fava beans and nice Chianti?”

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 1:19:51pm

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

WTAF? Afraid of WHAT?

Everything they say is projection, so it means the Trump defense is afraid of calling witnesses.

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 1:20:26pm

Why is it okay for Sanders and his minions to attack the actual Democratic candidates but when someone critiques him, they say that’s “destroying the Democratic Party and will lead to Trump’s re-election”?

— John Bielski (@JohnRBielski) January 21, 2020

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Mike Lamb Jan 21, 2020 • 1:21:03pm

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

WTAF? Afraid of WHAT?

Afraid for the future of the Republic? Sure.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:22:47pm

Mre: #222 Charles Johnson

What the fuck is this dude babbling about? I took a break to have lunch, and come back in to find this happy horseshit.

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That doesn’t make any sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:22:53pm

As I listen to the arguments of the Trump team of lawyers in the Senate, I can’t decide whether to be disgusted at their duplicity and ineptitude or to be outraged that we have elected a president who would choose this bunch of idiots to represent him in so solemn a proceeding

— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) January 21, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 1:23:08pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

What the fuck is this dude babbling about? I took a break to have lunch, and come back in to find this happy horseshit.

“Patrick Philbin currently making the argument that Trump and the GOP refusing to allow witnesses makes the Democrats “afraid.”“

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

WTAF? Afraid of WHAT?

Nothing to see here, just someone using the media’s own ‘Bad for Dems/Good News for McCain’ argument in a trial for impeachment. No biggie, nothing to worry about. This is normal, the media says so. ////

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 1:23:49pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

What the fuck is this dude babbling about? I took a break to have lunch, and come back in to find this happy horseshit.

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that he’s babbling that if the Dems don’t get any witnesses, they’re “afraid” they’re going to lose the “trial.” As noted above, it’s pure projection.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:24:26pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

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C. outraged that the R’s in the Senate are enabling this and are totally complicit

As I listen to the arguments of the Trump team of lawyers in the Senate, I can’t decide whether to be disgusted at their duplicity and ineptitude or to be outraged that we have elected a president who would choose this bunch of idiots to represent him in so solemn a proceeding

— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:24:28pm

re: #223 The Pie Overlord!

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Oh yet lock her up when you can’t even name a crime is fine. Piss off Jeanne, you’re an embarrassment to anyone who even can spell law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:24:58pm

A CLAM was originally a clasp or a pincer-like device for clamping two things together. The molluscs only became known as clams in the 1500s because their shells looked like these earlier devices. pic.twitter.com/zy7QawtfXl

— Haggard Hawks 📚🦅 (@HaggardHawks) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:24:58pm

re: #235 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

C. outraged that the R’s in the Senate are enabling this and are totally complicit

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Both

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 1:25:18pm

Philbin’s arguments may be laughable, but at least he has the personality of a blue soap dish.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:26:28pm

#Philbin has to admit “its technically true” that White House didn’t formally assert executive privilege. He falls back on DOJ memos on “absolute immunity” of Congressional testimony. BUT that wasn’t in the context of #Impeachment

— Maya Wiley (@mayawiley) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:26:31pm

re: #229 Citizen K

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Because there’s rules for Bernie and there’s rules for everyone else. I don’t like being blackmailed by supporters of a potential 80 year old president elect who can’t even join the party whose nomination he wants.

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Jay C Jan 21, 2020 • 1:27:11pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

The full story is here: littlegreenfootballs.com

OK, thanks all: that’s kinda what I recall it was: so fuck GG….

Even though, it must be said, what the Brazilian Government is trying to do to him is just plain wrong.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:27:33pm

pretty soon ‘Pyrrhic Victory’ is gonna start to trend google searches and twitter

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:27:43pm

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 1:28:41pm

re: #241 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Because there’s rules for Bernie and there’s rules for everyone else. I don’t like being blackmailed by supporters of a potential 80 year old president elect who can’t even join the party whose nomination he wants.

What pisses me off about all of this is that Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. Why should someone who won’t even commit to the party be allowed to not only run for its nomination but stir up all this shit along the way?

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lawhawk Jan 21, 2020 • 1:28:43pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

This. It’s both of them.

Trump’s lawyers are stupendously awful and it reflects both the fact that they are incompetent and awful, as well as that Trump doesn’t think any of this is bad for him. Repeating Trump’s conspiracy theories isn’t a defense. Repeating the lies isn’t a defense - it’s a violation of these lawyers’ oath taken when becoming officers of the court and they should be disbarred for this gross misconduct.

You can offer up a defense of Trump without lying their asses off. It can be done, but none of them appear capable of making anything resembling a cogent argument.

They can claim that the call language has been misrepresented and that it didn’t rise to a bribe or personal benefit.

But things fall apart so quickly because the admin blocks everything that supposedly would exonerate him - the testimony/witnesses/documents requested that show he did nothing wrong. You might be able to argue there that the requests were not reasonable and that things requested were beyond scope, but I think even that would be a lie.

That’s why Schiff and Democrats’ opening statements are so damning - all the facts and evidence put Trumpworld dead to rights and there’s no exculpatory evidence.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 1:28:58pm

re: #242 Jay C

He once suggested that he stayed in Brazil because the U.S. government would do this to him.

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 1:29:26pm

re: #241 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Because there’s rules for Bernie and there’s rules for everyone else. I don’t like being blackmailed by supporters of a potential 80 year old president elect who can’t even join the party whose nomination he wants.

The DNC have only themselves to blame. They keep allowing him to run, not simply for the presidential nomination, but also in their VT primaries as a Dem when he never actually runs in the election as one. Every year he’s run in the VT DNC primary, he’s immediately rejected the nomination and chosen to run as an “Independent.” And instead of either barring him from the primary or simply running another nominee against him, the party allows him to pull this shit so long as he promises to continue caucusing with them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:29:54pm

Lofgren waggles her experience in Nixon impeachment.

“I think US v Nixon is still good law. The President has not complied with those requirements.”

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 21, 2020

“not ready”?
too bad

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:29:59pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

What pisses me off about all of this is that Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. Why should someone who won’t even commit to the party be allowed to not only run for its nomination but stir up all this shit along the way?

I don’t get it either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:30:44pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“not ready”?
too bad

Philbin says we’re not ready to present our case.

We’re ready. The House calls John Bolton. The House calls Mick Mulvaney.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:31:02pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“not ready”?
too bad

That is correct.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:31:28pm

re: #248 Targetpractice

The DNC have only themselves to blame. They keep allowing him to run, not simply for the presidential nomination, but also in their VT primaries as a Dem when he never actually runs in the election as one. Every year he’s run in the VT DNC primary, he’s immediately rejected the nomination and chosen to run as an “Independent.” And instead of either barring him from the primary or simply running another nominee against him, the party allows him to pull this shit so long as he promises to continue caucusing with them.

because like i said above, no one else in VT wants the job

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:32:14pm

#PatPhilbin arguing Dems have no evidence & ask why they can’t wait to have evidence considered may sound rat’l, IF #McConnell hadn’t said there’s “no daylight” betw Senate leadership & White House defense & he wld try to dispose of the trial quickly. #ImpeachmentTrial

— Maya Wiley (@mayawiley) January 21, 2020

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lawhawk Jan 21, 2020 • 1:32:47pm

re: #250 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is what’s bugged me from the get-go with Bernie.

He broke rules back in 2016, was allowed to skate by, and now his supporters are even more toxic than back then.

Bernie isn’t a Democrat, and the only reason he’s even with the Democratic party primaries at this point is because he refuses to build an independent party, instead opting to try and coopt the Democrats to his own liking.

What’s worse is that there are enough Democrats in the DNC who think that this is acceptable behavior for a lifelong outsider who has no intention of helping Democrats in the long term.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:32:56pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I gave you the due date for the term project on the first day of class

Philbin says we’re not ready to present our case.

We’re ready. The House calls John Bolton. The House calls Mick Mulvaney.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 21, 2020

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:33:31pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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then again, im fine with any delay that pushes this closer to the SOTU

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 21, 2020 • 1:34:27pm

Reminder: The “one-sided” proceeding Pat Philbin is complaining about did not include a single partisan Democratic witness. Three witnesses were partisan Republicans. The rest claimed to be non-partisan.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 21, 2020

“The hearings were totally one-sided! Every single witness testified to the President’s guilt! Not one said he was innocent!!! And the President was not allowed to call his own witnesses who knew nothing about the President’s actions!”

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lawhawk Jan 21, 2020 • 1:35:08pm

Apparently, Michael Avenatti is being held in the same cell previously occupied by El Chapo.

Guess that’s a step up from the one previously occupied by Epstein?

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 1:35:14pm

The jury is not really the Senate; it’s the public. The defendant is not really Trump; it’s the Republican senators. Understanding this, Schiff got off to a strong start. https://t.co/lheeauMVOd

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:35:25pm

re: #255 lawhawk

This is what’s bugged me from the get-go with Bernie.

He broke rules back in 2016, was allowed to skate by, and now his supporters are even more toxic than back then.

Bernie isn’t a Democrat, and the only reason he’s even with the Democratic party primaries at this point is because he refuses to build an independent party, instead opting to try and coopt the Democrats to his own liking.

What’s worse is that there are enough Democrats in the DNC who think that this is acceptable behavior for a lifelong outsider who has no intention of helping Democrats in the long term.

He’s a Democrat when it suits him and an independent when it suits him. He’s not interested in building a lasting Dem majority, he’s interested in creating support for him only. I shutter at what kind of cabinet he would have. I haven’t criticized Trump for four years just to get a left wing version.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 1:37:15pm

This isn’t a rhetorical question. Is anyone planning on filing a bar complaint against Cipollone for blatantly lying to the Senate on national tv? Because that’s a violation of 18 USC 1001. @CREWcrew @POGOBlog

— National Security Counselors (@NatlSecCnslrs) January 21, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 21, 2020 • 1:38:05pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

What pisses me off about all of this is that Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. Why should someone who won’t even commit to the party be allowed to not only run for its nomination but stir up all this shit along the way?

Because he’s the ‘Democrat’ for folks who hate Democrats. And that apparently goes on both sides of the divide.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 1:38:35pm

Did he do it for Kushner?

— Wolverine Filled Moat Enthusiast (@rewegreatyet) January 21, 2020

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 21, 2020 • 1:40:21pm

re: #264 Dread Pirate

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Kushner, hell. I got a dollar says he probably said to Trump, “Donald, let me see your phone. There’s a cool app you should download….”

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 1:43:01pm

I’ve never attempted to extort an ally for political help. So, no, they couldn’t do it to me.

You? Shaken down any foreign governments lately? https://t.co/ntZFHflSe2

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 21, 2020

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 21, 2020 • 1:43:49pm

Trump’s lawyers couldn’t even get through their opening remarks of the #ImpeachmentTrial without telling a pack of lies https://t.co/LJYA9LejAo

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 21, 2020

“Your honor, gentlemen of the jury, the arguments of my learned opponent are sound - MERE SOUND!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:44:52pm

Hmmm. He claimed it was Pelosi who shut down the House Judiciary hearings on December 2 before president had a chance to participate.

He’s either stupid or lying. And I know he’s not stupid. So… https://t.co/1BtxCJos44

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

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Disloyal Archangel Jan 21, 2020 • 1:45:38pm

Hello Twitter,
This is just a casual reminder that Mitch McConnell’s wife is a Trump cabinet member.
That is all.#MidnightMitch #ConflictOfInterest #ImpeachmentDay

— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:46:13pm

I understand why the President’s counsel want to keep saying he “wasn’t allowed” to participate in the House impeachment process.

But we all lived through these headlines. We were all here for this part.https://t.co/BGCpzXWVLN pic.twitter.com/wDTpRQKggg

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) January 21, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 1:47:39pm

re: #266 jaunte

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Ah, one of the classic go-to lines for wingnuts caught in criminal acts: “IF I CAN BE WRONGLY PROSECUTED FOR THIS, SO CAN YOU!!!”

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 1:51:21pm

So this utter horse shit is what they’re going with:

“This is the first time in history where a president has been impeached for a non-crime, for events that never occurred.”

- Senator @JohnCornyn pic.twitter.com/DRNWNzez07

— Senate Republicans (@SenateGOP) January 21, 2020

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lawhawk Jan 21, 2020 • 1:51:41pm

re: #271 Targetpractice

Ah, one of the classic go-to lines for wingnuts caught in criminal acts: “IF I CAN BE WRONGLY PROSECUTED FOR THIS, SO CAN YOU!!!”

Except I’d never be in a position to demand/solicit a bribe to get dirt on political rival from foreign entity, and I’d urge anyone working for me to report any improper contacts to the authorities.

Trump knew, but didn’t care. Or he didn’t know and didn’t care. But as he was in office, he is assumed to know the law and that breaking it has consequences. He just doesn’t care and is counting on the GOP to cover for his corrupt and criminal ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:51:50pm

The look on this dog’s face when her favorite cat is grooming her 😍 pic.twitter.com/1pITp0KnAq

— The Dodo (@dodo) January 21, 2020

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i(m)p(each)sos Jan 21, 2020 • 1:52:47pm

Well, that’s disturbing. McCaskill on MSNBC predicting that Mitch now has all 53 votes from his caucus to keep tabling anything else that Schumer puts up as amendments.

Thus endeth this chapter of “Senator Collins and Her Magical Vanishing Spine.”

I trust she remains deeply concerned about things and stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:53:02pm

The Chief Justice of the United States is presiding meekly over a trial that may well have no evidence or witnesses. Thereby, he is lending the gravity of his office and the institution he represents to the wholesale dismantlement of the rule of law in the US. It’s obscene.

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:53:53pm

re: #272 The Pie Overlord!

So this utter horse shit is what they’re going with:

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Oh fuck off already. He admitted it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:54:01pm

re: #275 i(m)p(each)sos

Well, that’s disturbing. McCaskill on MSNBC predicting that Mitch now has all 53 votes from his caucus to keep tabling anything else that Schumer puts up as amendments.

Thus endeth this chapter of “Senator Collins and Her Magical Vanishing Spine.”

I trust she remains deeply concerned about things and stuff.

The senate just voted down Schumer’s amendment to subpoena relevant Ukraine documents for #TrumpsRemovalTrial. The vote was strictly partisan. Every Republican senator just said “I don’t want to allow evidence in this trial.” TRAITORS TO AMERICA #coverup

— Andrew Wortman (@AmoneyResists) January 21, 2020

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 1:54:28pm

Retweet if the lockstep 53-47 vote to conduct a coverup instead of a trial made you gag as it did me.

— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:54:41pm

The Senate cover-up has started and every single GOP Senator is implicated.

— Will Wilkinson 🌐 (@willwilkinson) January 21, 2020

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Charles Johnson Jan 21, 2020 • 1:54:46pm

McConnell just repeated his intention to help Trump cover up his crimes by refusing to allow documents or witnesses. And there are enough GOP cult votes for him to do it, so it’s pretty much over.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:55:13pm

re: #275 i(m)p(each)sos

Well, that’s disturbing. McCaskill on MSNBC predicting that Mitch now has all 53 votes from his caucus to keep tabling anything else that Schumer puts up as amendments.

Thus endeth this chapter of “Senator Collins and Her Magical Vanishing Spine.”

I trust she remains deeply concerned about things and stuff.

If that’s the case, then the DSCC needs to run ads against every Republican Senator calling them enablers who refuse to listen to anything that may make their king look bad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 1:55:53pm

This is why you don’t sit on your ass in the midterms.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 1:55:56pm

This hit me harder than I thought it would.

Every. Single. Republican in the Senate has failed us.
53 people put party over country. Shame on them forever.

Trump collaborators. Disgusting.

118/

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

Recess. Now we will have a debate on this state department document amendment. We have many amendments ahead.

And all of the Republicans are collaborating and covering up. For Donald John Trump.

120/

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

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Disloyal Archangel Jan 21, 2020 • 1:57:28pm

OT to ask any of the culinary wizards here for a bit of advice.
To make a long story short, I’ve ended up with several Sturgeon fish steaks (pretty rare to find in this corner of the world) and have no idea how to even try to prepare them. I was initially gonna grill them but then read that this particular fish doesn’t react so well to the grill, and so I’m alternatively considering using either a honey mustard marinade, lemon and herb marinade or Teriyaki, figuring that two to three hours before the oven would be fine).

Any thoughts/suggestions?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 21, 2020 • 2:00:44pm

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

WTAF? Afraid of WHAT?

The Trumpsters would make more sense if they just skipped the screeching stage and went straight to flinging feces.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:01:18pm

re: #285 Disloyal Archangel

OT to ask any of the culinary wizards here for a bit of advice.
To make a long story short, I’ve ended up with several Sturgeon fish steaks (pretty rare to find in this corner of the world) and have no idea how to even try to prepare them. I was initially gonna grill them but then read that this particular fish doesn’t react so well to the grill, and so I’m alternatively considering using either a honey mustard marinade, lemon and herb marinade or Teriyaki, figuring that two to three hours before the oven would be fine).

Any thoughts/suggestions?

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Sturgeon grills just fine
just don’t overcook it

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:01:51pm

We know Trump is going to do something impeachable again especially if he gets “exonerated.”

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:02:16pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I understand why the President’s counsel want to keep saying he “wasn’t allowed” to participate in the House impeachment process.

But we all lived through these headlines. We were all here for this part.https://t.co/BGCpzXWVLN pic.twitter.com/wDTpRQKggg

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) January 21, 2020

YouTube

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 2:03:24pm

re: #288 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We know Trump is going to do something impeachable again especially if he gets “exonerated.”

Yeah I hope we’re all ready for the all caps COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION!! tweet when Trump is acquitted.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:05:15pm

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah I hope we’re all ready for the all caps COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION!! tweet when Trump is acquitted.

Yeah it’s going to be obnoxious as shit.

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 2:05:15pm

THIS IS NOT NORMAL. STOP MAKING THIS NORMAL.

President Trump’s legal team accuses Democrats of a “dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president” in formal response to Senate impeachment trial summons. https://t.co/v0OPB7jcMp

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 21, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 2:05:31pm

I swear I will lose my shit if the GOP manages to keep this senate majority after November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:05:38pm

ah ha, I had that same thought

On @MSNBC, @KamalaHarris makes the point that Team Trump is lying their asses off so that Dems will have to use up their precious few minutes to rebut instead of make their case. #GOPCoverup

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) January 21, 2020

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 21, 2020 • 2:06:32pm

IT WAS A PERFECT PHONE CALL BUT NO YOU CAN’T SEE THE FULL TRANSCRIPT AND NO YOU CAN’T TALK TO ANYONE WHO WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN IT HAPPENED AND NO YOU CAN’T SEE DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE CALL EITHER BUT IT WAS PERFECT SHUT UP IT WAS PERFECT.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 16, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:06:36pm

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

THIS IS NOT NORMAL. STOP MAKING THIS NORMAL.

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That’s not how it works dumbasses.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:07:09pm

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear I will lose my shit if the GOP manages to keep this senate majority after November.

And the presidency. Sigh.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 2:08:02pm

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah I hope we’re all ready for the all caps COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION!! tweet when Trump is acquitted.

I don’t care about that fucking tweet. What will be much more damaging is that exoneration bullshit in headlines for months because the media always supports Republican lies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:09:02pm

To condone this is to betray America. https://t.co/vKtZrtWx3Y

— Connie Schultz (@ConnieSchultz) January 21, 2020

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Disloyal Archangel Jan 21, 2020 • 2:09:32pm

Breaking news: we are live with a jumbotron outside the United States Senate please retweet https://t.co/Uw7heMoiss

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 2:09:36pm

**checks notes** ah hell pic.twitter.com/FL7wMyTGiB

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) January 21, 2020

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:10:26pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200119 edition ————————————>
The Pondathon

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 2:11:22pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Way too many reporters actually are betraying the US by propping up Republicans.

That said, reporters shouldn’t be herded into pens like this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:12:07pm

Schumer: “We hear a lot of arguments from the president’s counsel. None of them directly address why there shouldn’t be witnesses and documents.That speaks volumes.”

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) January 21, 2020

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:12:32pm

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah I hope we’re all ready for the all caps COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION!! tweet when Trump is acquitted.

we’re real close to ‘i blew up the courthouse so they couldnt convict me’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:13:25pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They have nothing. No precedent. Just Trumps deluded bullshit that he can do whatever he wants because of his “historical” victory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:13:33pm

And predictably there is it.

We’re going to do that thing liberals do where we argue about some minor word I used and demand that I change “happy” to “glad.”

Lemme freshen my drink before we get started. https://t.co/9kwgHDn0iU

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 21, 2020

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:14:47pm

re: #298 EPR-radar

I don’t care about that fucking tweet. What will be much more damaging is that exoneration bullshit in headlines for months because the media always supports Republican lies.

from downstairs:

re the bothsiderism of the press

from The Wire, Season 5, episode 8, a homeless man to the Baltimore Sun editor

A lie ain’t a side of a story. It’s just a lie.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 2:15:04pm

re: #305 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

we’re real close to ‘i blew up the courthouse so they couldnt convict me’

That is a spot on analogy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:16:25pm

I knew it was coming, but hearing every single Republican vote against evidence was a gut punch.

Our job isn’t to protect our party’s leaders; its to seek the truth. So far, the Senate is failing in this mission.

More votes coming. A long night likely.

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:18:00pm

There is no question: This President has committed Constitutional Crimes. And 53 Republican Senators are more than happy to Aid & Abet those Crimes.

— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) January 21, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 21, 2020 • 2:19:20pm

53 Republican Senators have decided that when the choice is between justice and power, they’ll pick power every time and laugh at those who’d pick justice.

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BigPapa Jan 21, 2020 • 2:19:59pm

Not in english, in subtitles, so not sure if true. But the dude’s laugh is magnifico:

Funniest video in 2k19 so far 😂😂😂 Deploy everything to production right now, we’re an agile company 😂 #developers #DevOps #Software pic.twitter.com/VDx8hgFZ3i

— Jean Abayo (@JeanAbayo) January 28, 2019

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 2:21:16pm

Imagine the GOP raging if it was Democratic Senators doing this.

Imagine it.

They’d be trying to call in the Capitol Police to arrest them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:22:03pm

If a President can get away with blocking the witnesses and documents for an impeachment trial, he’s a King, not a President—exactly what our founders feared.

— Senator Jeff Merkley (@SenJeffMerkley) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:22:39pm

I was planning to watch every minute of the trial, but why bother? THE FIX IS IN. This is now just a televised #GOPCoverup. 🤮 https://t.co/pevt9BCabP

— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) January 21, 2020

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 2:23:55pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was always the plan for the Senate ‘trial’. Get as many purely party line votes as possible for the Senate Republican criminals to cover up for their criminal president, and then run like hell on that in elections this year.

We’ve already passed the first hurdle for this, since Senate Ds are holding the line. Even a single D vote for any of this GOP horseshit would be enough to make it ‘bipartisan’, according to the media’s ‘one-drop’ rule for both-siderism

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 21, 2020 • 2:25:35pm

re: #313 BigPapa

Reminds me of this classic. The sad thing is they call it a comedy sketch but damn if it isn’t real as hell.

The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch)

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ckkatz Jan 21, 2020 • 2:28:10pm

Looks like Hoarse Wisperer is also tired of getting BOATED

One of the reasons I call out Bernie is because I’ve seen an endless number of women get BOATed.

The BOAT: Bernie’s Online Abuse Team

Getting BOATed: being flooded with vicious harassment for criticizing Bernie

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 21, 2020

1,500 replies.

This question has been blowing up my notifications for over six hours now. https://t.co/Mq4HzxXqIR

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 21, 2020

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Disloyal Archangel Jan 21, 2020 • 2:29:28pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not a king but a tyrant.
Now weren’t there loads of folks who chanted about “2nd amendment solutions” to that kind of stuff a few years ago? Seems vaguely familiar… /

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 2:32:07pm

pic.twitter.com/vxTCLsXDdn

— Ditzzeechick (@Ditzzeechick) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:36:37pm

I defy the mainstream media to ignore this. It is ALL based on hard evidence. My team has the evidence in hand. https://t.co/bh8oaHeiXk

— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 2:37:58pm

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They own his ass.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 2:38:11pm

Pompeo has Bolsonaro’s back.

Delighted to see @ernestofaraujo again to discuss the U.S.-#Brazil partnership. Brazil’s sweeping economic reforms are transforming Latin America’s largest economy, and we will advocate strongly for an invitation to Brazil to begin the accession process to the #OECD. pic.twitter.com/PRBdpLt9kB

— Secretary Pompeo (@SecPompeo) January 21, 2020

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Patricia Kayden Jan 21, 2020 • 2:38:19pm

re: #288 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We know Trump is going to do something impeachable again especially if he gets “exonerated.”

That’s our saving grace. He’ll be so emboldened by the Senate’s acquittal that he’ll be eager to commit another impeachable offense. We can bet on that.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 2:39:51pm

re: #323 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They own his ass.

Follow the money is the prime directive for all investigative reporting. If/when Trump’s money laundering comes out, that will be glorious.

The day after his ‘exoneration’ by 53 GOP criminals in the Senate would be absolutely perfect timing.

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ckkatz Jan 21, 2020 • 2:41:15pm

((edit) Replying to the comments that point out that Trump will be emboldened and conduct impeachable actions again.)

Yes, I agree, that is a given.

The big problem is that if it happens the week before the election, and is about the election, we won’t find out about it until after the election has already happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:43:18pm

So when MBS bragged that he had Kushner “in his pocket,” he meant via the phone that was actually in his pocket. https://t.co/dvGRMrbRFR

— Greg Olear (@gregolear) January 21, 2020

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William Lewis Jan 21, 2020 • 2:43:50pm

Moscow’s Mitch is doing what his boss has ordered - destroying the US as a great power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:44:48pm

Val Demings with the receipts:

Demings offered more records. As a snippet, we can see how useful it would be to have all the messages.

Now she’s going through emails from Sondland.

“Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret. Everyone was informed via email on July 19th.”

134/

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

Amazingly, some of the docs have been released due to a FOIA lawsuit (though redacted). And yet still State Dep’t refuses to give them to the House.

136/

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

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fern01 Jan 21, 2020 • 2:45:00pm

re: #29 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Schumer needs to call out this lying skunk fucker.

Sadly Schumer is not Nancy Pelosi - there are many other senators who could do a much better job than Schumer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:46:55pm

Demings is kicking ass and taking names

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 2:51:54pm

“And now the military is here to help. It kills us in a way because we can no longer mock Toronto and that is as much a part of our identity as fishing.”@markcritch on Newfoundlanders and helping neighbours and, well, just being there. #nlstorm 🇨🇦

pic.twitter.com/pFP0D36IGs

— Canadian Forces in 🇺🇸 (@CAFinUS) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 2:56:21pm

Has Pat Cipollone withdrawn or corrected his Senate floor lie/error that Rep Schiff’s Republican colleagues were not permitted in the SCIF? https://t.co/65WCGJpkdm

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) January 21, 2020

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ckkatz Jan 21, 2020 • 2:56:37pm

The well regulated militia is at it again. (Fairfax County Police, Virginia report.)

RECKLESS DISCHARGE OF FIREARM: 8517 Leesburg Pike (Embassy Suites), 1/19/20, 11 a.m. A man reported that he accidently discharged a gun inside of his hotel room. The bullet was located inside of a wall and nobody was injured. Brendan Steuble, 50, of Great Falls, was arrested and charged with reckless handling of a firearm, discharge a firearm within a building and drunk in public.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 2:58:03pm

Tomorrow is the anniversary of Roe v Wade, a decision that grants women the right to choose our own future and freedom over our bodies. I encourage you to watch & share #OursToTell, a short film directed by @RAYning and stand up for abortion access. @PPFA pic.twitter.com/wqjntmE5vi

— kerry washington (@kerrywashington) January 21, 2020

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BeachDem Jan 21, 2020 • 2:58:31pm

And wouldn’t you know it, “A Face in the Crowd” is on TCM tonight…

You really sell that stiff as a man among men?

Lonesome Rhodes: Those morons out there? Shucks, I could take chicken fertilizer and sell it to them as caviar. I could make them eat dog food and think it was steak. Sure, I got ‘em like this… You know what the public’s like? A cage of Guinea Pigs. Good Night you stupid idiots. Good Night, you miserable slobs. They’re a lot of trained seals. I toss them a dead fish and they’ll flap their flippers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 3:01:00pm

It’s not that any of the @SenateGOP think he’s innocent, it’s that they just don’t care that he’s guilty.

It’s really sad.

— andy lassner (@andylassner) January 21, 2020

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 3:03:46pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

No Republican anywhere in the country gives a shit about Trump’s crimes. It’s a roughly even split between those who claim a Republican cannot commit a crime (because only Democrats commit crimes) and those who glory in Trump’s crimes as a way to piss off liberals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 3:04:32pm

Make no mistake, Obamacare is on the ballot this November. Coverage for millions of Americans and protections for pre-existing conditions are on the ballot.

We have to protect the progress we’ve made and show up to the polls to defend the Affordable Care Act. https://t.co/tWaiPrVAKr

— Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) (@JoeBiden) January 21, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 3:05:23pm

He’s going to look stupid after Rep Demmings.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 3:05:53pm

Hello. https://t.co/wPC9y4iAhp

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 21, 2020

Evidence of Trump’s crimes is going to keep coming out. Republicans have made a poor gamble.

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EPR-radar Jan 21, 2020 • 3:09:48pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s true that Obamacare is on the ballot this November, although the GOP has already inflicted mortal wounds on it. Explicit action will be needed to save it.

But what’s really on the ballot this November is whether the US president is an elected official subject to the law, or if he is a king who is above the law. More generally, is the US a representative democracy, or a one-party state rapidly becoming fascist under Republican rule?

These are simple questions relating to basic US political reality, but they will seem outlandish to anyone who accepts the relentless media normalization of Trump/Republicans.

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jaunte Jan 21, 2020 • 3:09:54pm

Hey, Sekulow:
“We could get the money. I know where it could be gotten. But it would be wrong.”

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 21, 2020

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 21, 2020 • 3:10:17pm

re: #335 ckkatz

The well regulated militia is at it again. (Fairfax County Police, Virginia report.)

RECKLESS DISCHARGE OF FIREARM: 8517 Leesburg Pike (Embassy Suites), 1/19/20, 11 a.m. A man reported that he accidently discharged a gun inside of his hotel room. The bullet was located inside of a wall and nobody was injured. Brendan Steuble, 50, of Great Falls, was arrested and charged with reckless handling of a firearm, discharge a firearm within a building and drunk in public.

Doing FC proud I see. I was born in Fairfax full disclosure.

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 3:10:46pm

He doesn’t mention the “No quid pro quo” was made after they knew the house was informed of a whistle blower.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 21, 2020 • 3:11:13pm

Cow 1
Dumbshit 0

What a Dumbsh💩t! pic.twitter.com/dRmQyRJIxB

— DumbSh💩t (@Dumbsheat) January 21, 2020

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 21, 2020 • 3:12:37pm

re: #347 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cow 1
Dumbshit 0

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Holy shit! I’ve never seen a cow do THAT!!

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 3:13:57pm

Something something about “lawyer lawsuits.” Sekulow is a confusing mess of a speaker.

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— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 3:15:23pm

Hi Pompeo. How’s Rudy? https://t.co/A6WiZtjFmK

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) January 21, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 21, 2020 • 3:17:51pm

REMINDER:

Here’s a list of every Republican who was allowed into the House depositions: https://t.co/bvwZkcnxeo

— Senate Democrats (@SenateDems) January 21, 2020

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Hecuba's daughter Jan 21, 2020 • 3:19:52pm

Could someone clarify this for me: did the Republican senators completely vote down every Democratic proposal OR did they table them so that theoretically they could be revived? And if tabled, can the Democrats bring each one up again after later arguments?

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Dread Pirate Jan 21, 2020 • 3:21:26pm

re: #352 Hecuba’s daughter

They will decide on new evidence after the presentation of the case.

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ckkatz Jan 21, 2020 • 3:21:29pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Holy shit! I’ve never seen a cow do THAT!!

300lbs of angry hamburger…

A friend of mine and his wife live in rural Pa. The neighbor’s cattle got out of their field into the friend’s yard. They chased the wife out back into her house.

On the other side, that friend raised sheep. I was visiting one time and we watched while one member of the flock figured out how to get out of their field and led the entire flock (?Out of captivity?)

You know who was on the next shipment out.

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plansbandc Jan 21, 2020 • 3:21:52pm

re: #347 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Family Story Time:

My mother’s mom and dad had a ranch. A few chickens, cows, ducks. It was mostly for escaping the city, not an actual working ranch.

Anyway, they had a cattle guard on the road at the entrance to the ranch. They would regularly find one of their cows on the other side of the cattle guard. It was said that she was jumping over the guard. I didn’t really believe the story. UNTIL NOW. :D

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goddamnedfrank Jan 21, 2020 • 3:22:10pm

Not sure I believe it, just because Bezos was unbelievably reckless (horny men often are) and his idiot girlfriend and her rightwing brother are still the most likely way his dick pics got out.

This article claims that Mohammed bin Salman personally sent Jeff Bezos a virus via WhatsApp that allowed the Saudis to hack his device…that sound you hear is Jared Kushner sprinting to the IT desk. https://t.co/LkVTWDAMPz

— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) January 21, 2020

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goddamnedfrank Jan 21, 2020 • 3:23:31pm

re: #352 Hecuba’s daughter

Could someone clarify this for me: did the Republican senators completely vote down every Democratic proposal OR did they table them so that theoretically they could be revived? And if tabled, can the Democrats bring each one up again after later arguments?

The way I understand it is they’re tabled, but it feels like a trial balloon to see how much blowback they get for it before a final vote.

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A Three Hour Tour Jan 21, 2020 • 3:24:55pm

re: #253 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

because like i said above, no one else in VT wants the job

In 2018, Bernie’s opposition in the VT Democratic primary were, unfortunately, a collection of non-serious candidates.The brother of an old college friend ran against Bernie, and I followed his campaign closely. He wasted his time on Facebook posturing to a cult of Sanders haters who weren’t even eligible to vote in Vermont. He had no experience in government, he had no policies, he had nothing except hatred of Trump and of Bernie and any Democrat who even tried to reach out to Bernie supporters. Worse, he was a loose cannon, just as likely to spend his time waging war on Charles Schumer and Nancy Pelosi than opposing Trump.

He didn’t bother to file his paperwork on time to run in the primary, yet continued to act on FB as if he was still running. As the primary approached, I brought up the paperwork issue on FB. “Oh, I’m still running … but as an Independent, but I’m still the real Democrat in the race. I’m pulling a Bernie on Bernie. “

Unsurprisingly, Bernie won the primary, yet most of his primary opponents were still on the official ballot in November … as Independents, including my friend’s brother.

In the end, my friend’s brother received a smidgen less than 2000 votes in total. And watching the campaign, if I were a Vermonter, given the choice between Bernie and the rest of the candidates on the ballot for that seat, I would’ve voted for Bernie - and I hate Bernie with a purple passion.

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